Megan:
And [...] now abideth faith, hope, love, these three. But the greatest
of these is love.
Light & love
BeiYin: True. But is there
love?
Or is it just the hope, the imagination of love? Where are we after 2000
years of beautiful hope of love, of such a promising picture? Is
there love? Real love? Even this question is absurd because
if there is mainly just the picture of love, then there is no or
very little experience about love, so there can't be 'understanding' and
even little experience feeds the imagination and the hope for more... The
substitutes are growing in number, including all levels... The longing
grows...
So all this talking, those many words about love,
shows the need for it and the longing but it doesn't mean that there is
love. It seems to be unbearable to live in our reality where 'real love'
is hardly manifested. All these many words feeding hope, are like a veil
which covers daily life reality. The serious result is, that people are
trapped and stuck with their pictures.
It is a difficult situation: There is no (real)
love, but at least there is the hope and the imagination of it? People
are identified with their hopes and imaginations, - this is part of their
personality. So it is nearly impossible for them to drop this to go beyond.
There are many offers from 'spiritual' methods, which are nearly all are
feeding personality in a more subtle but also more tricky way, much harder
to discover to be able to go beyond. Is there a way to avoid those sophisticated
traps? Yes, there is: Meditation and
'Relating to life'.
Is there anybody interested to get to know more
about it? Don't hesitate to email me... Well, better hesitate, because
it might be 'dangerous' for you. You might need to loose some of your precious
properties of old beliefs, hopes and imaginations. So better think twice...
BeiYin: I just found something in
>alt.meditation< which fits well to the subject:
Subject: An Action of Love, Date: Fri,
19. Sep 1997
Kathy: Have you confused your
concept of truth with Truth? We can not speak Truth, only be Truth. [We
can not speak love, only be love. BY.] But that requires more than
just words. It requires opening our hearts and our whole being. It requires
us being pure channels of unfiltered blessings, something that is spontaneous
and not arrived at by a formula. Which brings us back to the consciousness
of the person speaking truth.
BeiYin: Just words, probably
as well coming out of a (subtle) concept, but well said. So let's better
shut up and have a look to ourselves... ;-)? Well, we will go on talking
for a while...
Megan: Message No. 66 March
20th 1979
My dear friends, I am happy indeed to be with
you once more in this way. My Mission proceeds; all that I hoped for is
being achieved, augers well for the future. My Plan is to present Myself
to the people of the world within so short a time that few indeed will
doubt My Presence. My Words will teach you the Ways of God, the way forward
into the blessed future which I see before you. Into the Light of the highest
dreams of man shall I take you. [snip] [see original post]
BeiYin: There is no teaching
given by these promising words. 66 messages of beautiful words... What
sense has all this? There could be given something helpful which makes
people understand themselves and their problems. There is so much suffering
and pain around us. Isn't it the time to find out what it is all about?
Giving hope that one day in the future it will be better, is no help. People
are tired of all these words, producing pictures, feeding imaginations
of dreams... Such messages only make me angry. OK, then maybe out of my
anger might come some expression which gives more sense than all this holy
blablabla...
Megan: Thank you for your response
to the message I posted to the news group.
BeiYin: I am reacting
because I feel responsible and I respond to your message, nothing else.
Megan: I am sorry that these
words make you angry.
BeiYin: There is no need
to be sorry. I allow myself to be angry and I am reacting like this because
to me your message follows the long (christian) tradition of manipulation
of mind and feelings of innocent and naive people. I am using my anger
in a creative, constructive way... And I tell you: sometimes I like to
be angry, - it makes me feel human. (And it's more authentic than hiding
behind a mask of softy smile...)
Megan: I guess everyone has
different reactions when they read these messages.
BeiYin: Of course.
Megan: Personally I find
them inspiring - they lift my vision and give me hope and a sense of wonder
and joy regarding what lies ahead for humanity.
BeiYin: Yes indeed, these
messages are feeding hope in abundance. They confirm your imagination,
your beautiful concepts, your belief system. They feed your fantasy, your
dreams of a wonderful future for humanity. They help you to be able to
bear the presence of reality which is so different from dreams and hopes,
even if you don't recognize what is around you, closing your eyes as much
as possible.
Megan:| I have discovered
that the more uplifted and full of hope I feel, the more this is reflected
in my environment. So I can say that I am very happy in the 'present'.
They have motivated me to do many good deeds that I am not sure I would
have done without such inspiration.
BeiYin:| Of course, as more you are confirmed
from your environment, as more secure you feel in your beliefs. You are
happy in the presence of your strong beliefs. If you would respond to that
what comes to you, with responsibility and consciousness, you would not
ask if it is good and you would not notice it in your book of 'good deeds'.
Megan:| Perhaps I didn't
explain that clearly: I have done many positive things, motivated by Maitreya's
words, that have been of benefit to others. It is not a calculated thing,
but a spontaneous expression of the happiness I feel inside.
BeiYin:| The question is
what is 'beneficial'? Helping others to take over your believes and establish
their own belief system? Can you give an example?
Megan: To my mind, the purpose
of these messages is to inspire and motivate: not necessarily to give teachings,
though there is one teaching that Maitreya reiterates in His messages:
and that is the need for us to share ("take your brothers need as the measure
for your action and solve the problems of the world").
BeiYin: Whatever the purpose
might be, it is following the old tricky way, to give people what they
want: confirmation of their believes and feeding them new even more beautiful
ones. - So there can't be any real teaching, because this would discover
the background...
Megan:| If it is confirmation
of the belief in 'sharing, justice and brotherhood' then I suggest that
these spiritual truths lie at the essence of all teachings, and that we
already 'know' these in our hearts.
BeiYin:| There is no spiritual
truth except what is realized individually in daily life.
Confirming believes is not teaching at all. 'Essence' or whatever, as an
idea it has no value as long it is not lived. There is no way to 'know',
not in your heart and not in your head. As long as your 'knowing' build
up your personality you are trapped in it and you are not able to come
near truth.
Megan: Often the simplest
teachings are the most effective - what Maitreya is saying to us is that
the cause of all our suffering and pain is this idea that we are separate,
thus we compete against each other and create division and wars.
BeiYin: Effective? For what?
Simple teaching is the best, but that doesn't mean that you can simplify
things.
Megan:| I think that humanity
has complicated what is really very simple - I believe that at the essence
of all things are the truths of love, sharing, justice and brotherhood...
and as we peel away the layers of complexities that surround us, we unveil
the simple and clear truth at the heart.
BeiYin:| Indeed, it got complicated
because people were not satisfy with what they have, they always wanted
more, they still do so now, they want all and so they build up a sophisticated
personality, running behind satisfaction and security... Who wants to peel
away layers of this? That would mean to reduce the personality. So better
let it stand as a nice untouched concept: Nobody wants to unveil the truth,
let it stay 'simple and clear in your heart'.
BeiYin: Cause of suffering
is NOT the idea that we are separate and NOT that we compete against each
other. The cause is that people are separated from each other, because
they try to live their believes, they try to live their dreams, their hopes.
They try to live a concept of life, but they don't respond to life. They
don't confront life. People living in an artificial ideological dream world
in which they are separated from each other and only trying to fulfill
their concept of togetherness, love, harmony and so on. The discrepancy
of life in its tough reality from hopes, dreams and concepts creates suffering
and pain. There is division and war all the time and everywhere, within
each individual, within families, groups, nations etc. There is no harmony,
peace, love etc. mainly there is just the concept, the hope, the dream.
This is our reality.
Megan:| Humanity has developed
some beautiful ideals such as the ones you stated: 'togetherness, love,
harmony.'
BeiYin:| The problem is that
these 'beautiful ideals' inhibit people from 'relating to life'
in
a direct, authentic way. Peoples personalities are build up in a blown
up excess, by being identified with all these ideals.
Megan:| The Age of Aquarius
(the next 2000 years) is the Age when humanity will put these ideals into
practice.
BeiYin:| It is pretty clear
(let's pretend that this is a fact) that if this starts now, it will need
at least 500 years to make a change visible. So at this given moment it
has no value at all, because this is too far away into the future. And
indeed there is no way to 'put this ideals into practice'. 'Humanity' may
go on fighting against wind mills, finding their confirmation within their
frustration...
Megan:| Certainly there is
a lot of suffering, war and division, but can you not also see the expression
of these ideals in the world?
BeiYin:| Frankly: I can't
see it in this world. If there shows up something, then it is on a personal
level, in daily life encounters or someone expressing him/herself.
Megan:| More and more over
the past few years we have witnessed some very positive events that express
our highest dreams. These events prove the power of trying to live ones
dreams and hopes, rather than just think about them. For example, the breaking
down of the Berlin Wall (a spontaneous act by the people in the urge to
unify), the ending of Apartheid in South Africa (ending of a separation
between black & white), the end of the Cold War between Russia and
the US, people taking to the streets in many countries demanding their
rights for justice and freedom.
BeiYin:| I guess this is
a question of interpretation. You only want to see what fits into your
picture. The same as the mediums like TV and press, they write and show
what people want to see. There is hardly anything shown of the background
of happenings. This looks quite different than the beautiful Aquarium picture.
If we are going into a discussion about politics (I will not) then it will
show up a lot of more dirty tricks to manipulate people, playing power
games, on a huge stage of blown up personalities, even more than on the
love & light picture stage...
Megan: To heal the world
requires a sense that we are truly a global family: that we are all 'One'.
BeiYin: You are giving another
concept. There is no 'global family', this is a fiction. We are not all
ONE. These are ideas but not reality.
Megan:| We are all inter
linked both with each other and the environment. At the essence of all
life is 'energy' - I suggest the energy of 'love': the attractive force
that holds the very particles of matter together. I think it won't be long
before science is able to prove what spiritually is already known: that
we are 'One' This idea of oneness is gradually being expressed more &
more in our lives, and is becoming more of a reality.
BeiYin:| The first basic
condition that 'One' is becoming a reality, is that the individual starts
to relate to what is there. To start to understand the limiting conditions
of 'personality', the dependencies, etc. Part of this is the understanding
of the most primitive human survival behavior and one facet of this is
the clinging on believes, dreams and ideas...
BeiYin: What counts in the
first place is our daily reality and not one up there in clouds of dream
worlds. The first thing would be that the individual becomes 'familiar'
with him/herself, that means with one's personal reality. This would be
the first step. Then there could start the integration of lost and unknown
parts and facets (still personal)... to become one with oneself, this is
a long way to go. But it is the only way. And of sure ideas, hopes, dreams
and the whole tradition of concepts has to be left behind.
Megan:| Ideas, hopes, dreams
are like the steps on the ladder: concepts serve their purpose, and as
we progress we can discard them and simply live the truth.
BeiYin:| Ideas, hopes, dreams
are parts of a power game, individually, of groups and also of interested
individuals on the astral plane. Indeed, those concepts serve their purpose.
There is no progress, it is exactly the same as in the materialistic world
of consuming: 'progress' is a tricky argument, a bate in the trap, the
promise that one day the longing will be fulfilled. Can't you see, that
humanity was deceived all the time and still is deceived on all levels
of consume, materialistically and spiritually. There doesn't exist a ladder
to truth. Beautiful words might satisfy for the moment those individuals
who doesn't want to go beyond their personality. I am not using those words
and I am not talking to those people.
Megan: It means respecting
ourselves and each other as the unique and divine beings that we all are.
BeiYin: 'Respect' can only
be the result of an individual process. As well as those beautiful believes
which gives hope but separates from reality and makes it impossible to
relate in an honest and direct way to whatever shows up.
Megan:| Hope lifts us up,
in a similar way to plants growing towards the sun. Through hope we are
motivated to transform our reality for the better. Without hope we would
be a sad race indeed: the vision of something better ahead motivates us
and helps people relate in a positive way to 'whatever shows up'.
BeiYin:| Right: 'Hope lifts
you up' and so the frustration coming out from dealing with daily reality
brings you down. Because there is no way to avoid the confrontation with
daily reality. Right? Your dreams breaking down one after the other. This
might need forty years, but you can be sure it will happen... Of course
you will change your believes to more sophisticated once, this will help
for a while, but it might also happen that you find yourself at the end
of your life totally disillusioned. That could be the beginning of a new
way to relate to just what is there, but it might be too late and the individual
has grown bitter, hard and close. Look around if you dare... There is no
sharing, no understanding, I am not mentioning 'love & light'...
Megan: And the expression
of that understanding is sharing.
BeiYin: Believing is NOT
'understanding'. What you call 'sharing' is giving confirmation to each
other, what makes believes stronger. And as people are identified with
their believes, so it makes their personality stronger. Or can you say,
that it is not like this?
Megan: ...as Maitreya says,
"when you share, you recognize God in your brother."
BeiYin: This is so far away
from our daily life reality, that adapting this concept, it only can produce
a split or keep the existing separation going on and on.
Megan:| Is it so far removed
from our daily life reality? Every day we are sharing: we share our lives
with family and friends, we share the same hopes & dreams, we share
our opinions, our ideas with each other, we share the same air, water and
planet. Separation is an illusion and gradually this illusion is losing
its hold on our minds. This is becoming a very small world, thanks to worldwide
communications, and more clearly we are seeing our interdependence - that
we are part of a global family - and therefore we are seeing more clearly
the importance of sharing the world's resources if we are to have peace
in our 'family'.
BeiYin:| You are right: People
are sharing their hopes & dreams and their opinions, - if those are
the 'same', you say it! Again: They do so, to confirm each other and so
feel secure... You also might share your life with friends and family,
but only if they are like minded and have the same interests as you. If
they don't serve your interest, there is fighting and trouble. Look around...
Do we share water, air and water? Don't you see what goes on? People take
as much as they can, not caring at all for resources or future of humanity.
Look around... You are talking about 'worldwide communication'? Another
illusion! Look into the Internet. Do you think this is communication? A
nice dream indeed, but the Net serves in the first place to react on others
in the most primitive way. That is obvious and there is no need to talk
about it: self confirmation all over the place, but hardly any communication...
Megan: The main teaching
that Maitreya will be giving us is the Art of Self (or God) Realization.
BeiYin:
Will be given? Is
this a promise? So why he is not starting right now? Are these messages
are given to announce the teaching? If it is like this, then it seems pretty
clear what the 'art of Self Realization' will be: another way of self confirmation.
(And for me there is hardly any difference between the 'lousy self' and
the self which is identified with whatever holy concept.)
Megan:| He has given us the
basic method: honesty of mind, sincerity of spirit and detachment. I am
sure that when Maitreya is known to us all, He will explain this Art in
more detail.
BeiYin:| This is no 'Art',
this is very naive, the simplicity is not the intention. Just from this
it is clear that those messages meant to catch energy from innocent seeker,
not offering any thing profound.
Megan: This is a simple method
by which we can come to an understanding of 'who we are'.
BeiYin: All 'understanding'
is limited to personality. So the 'understanding' can't be the way or the
method to become that what we are. That would mean: what we really are.
I guess your method will just help to secure your belief system and not
to go beyond it.
Megan:| The Art of Self (or
God) Realization is a method by which you can come to an understanding:
an inner 'knowing' of 'who you are' This goes beyond the personality, beyond
belief systems. It frees you from illusions and brings you face to face
with the truth within.
BeiYin:| So far it sounds
good. Now where is the 'method'? Isn't it time to show something concrete?
Otherwise I must think that this promise is another stalling tactic...
Megan: It consists of three
main precepts: Honesty of mind, Sincerity of spirit, Detachment. Honesty
of mind means to 'do what you say what you think' (not too many politicians
would pass this test!)
BeiYin: If it is a method
than it is not a 'test'. To say what you think and then to do it, is not
enough. And surely it is not honest enough. As thoughts and feelings are
reactions, so I understand that you say one should react spontaneously.
This will be pretty provoking even more than it does anyway and if the
other does the same, they will probably beat up each other... Then asking
for detachment sounds like a joke.
Megan:| I agree it is not
a 'test', it is a way of living. Surely 'to say what you think and then
to do it' is a start in the right direction. I know personally that from
being more honest with myself and saying and doing what I think, I feel
a lot happier and healthier.
BeiYin:| I agree, this is
a very basic step and should be taught to children soon after they have
started to talk.
Megan: ...sincerity of spirit
means expressing yourself from your innermost being as in 'having a heart
to heart talk with someone'.
BeiYin: First people must
learn to be able to express themselves on a very basic level before they
can come to something which might be called 'innermost being' which can
be reality but never by trying to live it as a concept. 'Having a heart
to heart talk' is a nice idea, but to be able for this it needs quite some
more. Not necessarily a long process of psychotherapy, but surely more
than a belief system and some simple basic advises.
Megan:| Again, we all need
beliefs and advice as steps on the ladder.
BeiYin:| This
is a statement you haven't proofed at all. As I said before: There is no
ladder to truth through believes whatever kind. People fool themselves
and they prefer to be fooled because they are too lazy and down in the
dumps to be able to ask questions or to put in question their situation.
Megan:| As we evolve, we
can discard these and rely more on our own 'inner truth', but for the majority
they still serve an important role. To be sincere, to speak from the heart
is really very simple yet also difficult... we find it easier to communicate
on a more superficial level: I think it takes courage and honesty to be
able to communicate more from our hearts, and of course it also takes time.
But a long journey starts with a small step - we can begin today, and you'll
find that the going gets easier the further you 'walk'.
BeiYin:| Roland said it before:
People love this kind of wishi washi teaching. I start to get bored and
ask myself what I am doing in such a discussion. I think it is enough...
If you have something concrete to say, then I am open and will listen.
Megan: ...detachment means
not being possessive of any person, thing or idea.
BeiYin: You are really that ignorant (innocent)
that you think by telling people not to be possessive they simply drop
it? People are possessive because of a long tradition and all those religions
and whatever survival concepts haven't changed anything about this. On
top of all their possession they put their ideas, their believes, their
hopes and whatever holy possession. To be able to drop this, only can be
the result of a long walk...
Megan:| I know that people
need to find these things out for themselves. We often don't realize we
are attached to a person, thing or idea - but by becoming aware of attachments
we can then begin to observe and understand and to see that being possessive
causes suffering for both ourselves and others. There is a saying 'pain
breaks the shell of your understanding' i.e. we learn through our suffering
to be more detached, and as we do this, our awareness grows and we come
closer to realizing 'who we are'.
BeiYin:| There are some living
and several dead pseudo gurus, who wrote a lot of clever books, with some
good advises and even some wisdom. What do you think they have to put in
their trap to attract people? Most of the naive seeker need only beautiful
words of a promising belief, then there are others who must be convinced
more intellectual. On the astral plane there are specialists who can cover
all the needs of critical and uncritical seeker. Bates are available in
abundance. So people fall into the traps like flies into the sweet milk.
And then people who are in the milk (like you) are used to attract others
to go into the same trap. In a way it doesn't matter: People are just changing
one trap against another. OK, you might call this evolution, it isn't,
it's struggling around in different traps...
Megan: If you are able to
be detached you can then observe the flow of life around you instead of
being swept away by it.
BeiYin: Indeed, 'if you are
able'.
Megan: This increases your
awareness ...
BeiYin: What you are doing
is to promise another kind of possession: 'more awareness'.
Megan:| Awareness is not
a 'possession', it is a livingness that comes to us as we free ourselves
from attachment to 'possessions'.
BeiYin:| This is a false
promise. It is the nature of personality to be attached to possession whatever
kind and whatever level. Of course awareness is not a possession but the
personality makes even awareness to a possession. It is not possible to
free oneself from this attachment without going beyond ones personality.
Megan: ...and reduces your
suffering (we suffer because we are 'attached' to something).
BeiYin: And promising an
award: less suffering. Specially because of attachment to beliefs, concepts,
ideas, etc. It is not in the first place the possession of things, it is
the personality which is identified with all those possessions, with the
goal to feel stronger, safer, secure, better... All these ideas serve those
who are 'selling' them. It is a big game which has to do with power...
Megan:| The goal to feel
'stronger, safer, secure, better' is a spiritual striving and lifts people
up to a higher level of living.
BeiYin:| This 'goal' is NOT
a 'spiritual striving' it is the natural force to survive of every living
system, beginning from the simplest cell... 'Spiritual' would mean that
a transformation in a human being has happened and this surely is not the
case just by adding to personality.
Megan:| Beliefs, concepts,
ideas play their purpose - as we grow in awareness (through practicing
honesty of mind, sincerity of spirit and detachment) we can discard our
attachment to beliefs. There are people who 'sell' concepts for personal
gain (whether for money or power), but no one can sell you your own inner
truth. It is something for each of us to find for ourselves.
BeiYin:| All said before.
Megan: By practicing honesty
of mind, ...
BeiYin: It is not possible
to practice 'honesty of mind'. First you have to experience the nature
of personality and so understand, that there is no honesty, because the
mind is only serving your personality and so there can be only 'honesty'
as a concept but not as reality.
Megan: ...sincerity of spirit
and detachment we will come to know ourselves as we really are.
BeiYin: By just telling this,
nobody will come to self knowledge. It is not that simple.
Megan:| No, it isn't that
simple you are right: someone telling you something isn't enough: we have
to put it into practice.
Megan: ...we'll be able to
see past the image/personality with its transient feelings and thoughts,
and know the stillness and peace at the heart of our being: the soul, the
divine spark of God.
BeiYin: What you are promising
is dangerous and very tricky: you are putting another shell around personality,
giving a new illusion, another identification: 'spark of God', but you
are not giving freedom and not the possibility to realize what you promise,
because you are not giving any practical advice, any information which
could help to deal with daily life's personal problems.
Megan:| I suggest that practicing
the Art of Self Realization will bring you freedom. The soul is able to
more purely express Itself through its reflection (the personality consisting
of body, mind and emotions) as we practice this Art... but the emphasize
is on putting these teachings in to practice. It is not enough just to
think something... we need to do what we say what we think.
BeiYin:| All said before.
What is needed is a clear: Practical advice how to deal with daily life
problems. Your teaching can't be 'put into practice', because it consists
only of beautiful words and basic, quite primitive advises uncertain expressed.
Megan: And imagination can
be a wonderful thing, if fired with inspiring ideas: it's this quality
of man to dream and imagine and ever strive towards a goal just out of
our reach that causes us to evolve towards a more purer expression of the
souls we essentially are. Maitreya has given us a vision of a golden future
for mankind - that to me is a precious gift because He is giving hope and
faith, reminding me of the saying "Faith is the substance of things hoped
for, the evidence of things not seen."
BeiYin: Pretty clear, so
manipulation can go on and on and on. It looks to me, that 'Maitreya' is
a fiction used by astral beings, which are interested to move more energy.
So they give these channeled 'messages' with beautiful words and promises,
but nothing more and nothing real.
Ronald: This is true for
all channeled messages, but people love it.
Megan:| Maitreya is here
as 'the Architect of the Plan'...
BeiYin:| An architect is
not needed. If there is a 'plan' then it is always there.
Megan:| ...whereas we are
the 'willing builders of the shining temple of truth'.
BeiYin:| Poetic, beautiful
expression without any practical use. Serving as emotional trap.
Megan:| Just as a teacher
in a classroom will give teachings to his/her students and then get them
to do a practical project, so it is with Maitreya: the words and promises
are meant to motivate and inspire, but it is always up to us to put them
in to practice.
BeiYin:| A weak picture which
can't convince me of any sense of all these beautiful words and promises
apart of serving as a trap.
Megan:| We are ultimately
responsible for our own development - there is no 'easy way' to Self Realization:
it takes a lot of practical work out there in the 'real world'.
BeiYin:| I agree wholeheartedly.
Out there in the 'real world' and in the first place
in here of each
of us.
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