BeiYin: It is not everywhere known that
the body system is trying to heal itself, what means to eliminate interferences,
through the process of infection or other kinds of reactions like cancer,
etc. Mostly the symptoms, for example the infection is seen as the sickness
and is treated, but the sickness is just the visible sign that the system
is disturbed and out of balance. Medicine in our days is mostly treating
symptoms without searching really for the root cause behind all the symptoms.
Cutting out the 'bad', eliminating with knife or chemicals is the usual
way. The result is that there is no real healing. The interference field
goes on disturbing the system and other symptoms will show up, maybe even
stronger than the ones just 'cured'.
So the system stays unhealthy. That's our daily
reality and we suffer from it, not being able to find out a way, trying
many things, but making it worse from day to day. A vicious circle without
escape...
What is it we are doing wrong?
And isn't the same dilemma every where the same?
On all levels? As on the body level so it is on the mental and emotional
level of each of us. So it is with communication between each other. With
our partner, our family, with people at work, with neighbors and also on
a bigger level like in governments, countries and obviously also on the
biggest level: the global dilemmas.
Observing reactions on all these different levels,
we can see that every body, included governments react and act in the same
way as the medical doctors: They try to eliminate the symptoms, believing
that these are the cause. As an established part of the system, they are
not capable to see that their doing must fail, because it is not treating
the cause.
To find a solution for a conflict, that means
to heal on whatever level, we need information given from a viewpoint which
includes the .
On the body level it would include the emotional and mental level. What
would be necessary to be included on a country level? And what on a global
level? Shouldn't we try to find out about this? Are there maybe people
who have this kind of overview? If they exist then now is the moment that
they show up and tell us their view and share their knowledge.
I believe that the most important is that we
start to move and get engaged, relating in a responsible way to whatever
shows up. Then together we will find a way to deal with conflicts, differently
than until now and also we will find creative solutions.
BeiYin: It is not every where known that
the body system is trying to heal itself, what means to eliminate interferences,
through the process of infection or other kinds of reactions like cancer,
etc.
Betsy: It must be that the body tries
to heal itself, having in built survival mechanisms that serve that purpose.
So you are saying that an interference is like an irritation or thorn in
the smoothly running system. An analogy could be a thorn going into one's
skin, and then the body reacts to this creating an infection to eliminate
the thorn. It is the infection that hurts, not the thorn. So the body works
to reject the thorn.
BeiYin: Mostly the infection is seen as
the sickness and is treated, but the sickness is just the symptom that
the system is disturbed and out of balance.
Betsy: I agree in that the infection is
what hurts, and it would be easy to treat that seeing the surface sickness
(bypassing or ignoring the embedded thorn). Okay, I agree that the
'detectable' sickness is 'the symptom' that the system is disturbed.
BeiYin: Medicine in our days is mostly
treating symptoms without searching really for the first cause behind all
the symptoms. Cutting out the 'bad', eliminating with knife or chemicals
is the usual way. The result is that there is no real healing.
Betsy: Yes, if you don't remove the thorn
and just treat the infection, the symptom will keep returning until the
thorn is discovered and removed. I agree that medicine today is mostly
treating the symptoms, with the goal to make people feel better at least
for the present moment. Just look at all the cold remedies that are available,
yet they don't look to cure the cold, only treat the symptoms. Perhaps
the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't want that anyway, there would be
way too much money lost...
BeiYin: The interference field goes on
disturbing the system and other symptoms will show up, maybe even stronger
than the ones just 'cured'.
Betsy: I suppose that if you don't remove
the splinter or thorn, then it could go deeper and/or affect the bloodstream
with poisoning, or something else. I would imagine that the longer it festers,
then the more violent or stronger the reaction of the symptom. With this
I can also see that the body is saying "Pay attention to me!".
BeiYin: So the system stays unhealthy.
That's our daily reality and we suffer from it, not being able to find
out a way, trying many things, but making it worse from day to day. A vicious
circle without escape...
Betsy: This could use some flushing out.
Because, in it I see that you are jumping from a discussion of bodily illness
to a parallel to the whole system which includes mental, emotional and
body, and also all levels of individual, group and whole. Which I think
is a big leap. So the system stays unhealthy because there is still an
underlying cause that has not been discovered that is causing the visible
symptom of sickness, which is our suffering? We try to find a way out of
our suffering, jumping from one thing to another: careers, money-making,
power seeking, relationships, notoriety, spirituality, etc. So what is
this thorn that we can't see that causes our sickness?
BeiYin: What is it we are doing wrong?
Betsy: I wish that we all knew, so that
we wouldn't have to suffer so much.
BeiYin: And isn't the same dilemma every
where the same? On all levels? As on the body level so it is on the mental
and emotional level of each of us. So it is with communication between
each other. With our partner, our family, with people we work, with neighbors
and also on a bigger level like in governments, countries and obviously
also on the biggest level: the global dilemmas.
Betsy: Lately I don't see much communication,
just a lot of finger pointing and imagined suppositions... But I suppose
the dilemma is the same at all levels.
BeiYin: Observing reactions on all these
different levels, we can see that every body, including governments react
and act in the same way as the medical doctors: They try to eliminate the
symptoms, believing that these are the cause. As they are established part
of the system, they are not capable to see that their doing must fail,
because it is not treating the cause.
Betsy: The generality: The reaction is
the visible symptom reflecting the underlying cause, the normal (mistaken)
action is to respond towards that which is visible, which is the symptom,
not the cause.
Okay, I can see that this is a turning around,
that it is like operating on that which isn't so it would be hard to cure
anything 'here'. But it's harder to see it in the body things. What is
the difference between the body level, mental level and emotional level?
BeiYin: To find a solution for a conflict,
that means to heal on whatever level, we need information given from a
viewpoint which includes the whole.
Betsy: Another big jump... Who has this
viewpoint? How can this viewpoint be brought into the process of looking
at the symptoms?
BeiYin: On the body level it would include
the emotional and mental level.
Betsy: The whole as a viewpoint then,
is looking at all parts that make up the system?
BeiYin: What would be necessary to be included
on a country level? And what on a global level? Shouldn't we try to find
out about this?
Betsy: Yes, I suppose that starting at
a smaller level as a kind of take off point might make more sense. Like
you had suggested earlier, to put up a less complex (not necessarily simpler)
community conflict and work through it.
BeiYin: Are there maybe people who have
this kind of overview? If they exist then now is the moment that they show
up and tell us their view. They might form a kind of "Internet committee
for conflict resolution", as a stage for this the Internet could serve
perfectly.
Betsy: I don't think there is anyone with
this type of overview. Everyone I have met so far is just out for their
own interests and I don't see anyone willing to let go of their own viewpoint
to see another's.
So where is someone that has a non-biased view?